In this episode, Joe Moore interviews Soren Shade: passionate anti-prohibitionist, producer of the third season of “Hamilton’s Pharmacopeia” and producer of his new podcast, and Co-Founder of Top Tree Herbs; a kratom tea company dedicated to educating people about kratom, normalizing its use, and defeating the prohibitionists who want to ban it. He tells his story of learning from Dr. Carl Hart at Columbia, discovering kratom, and meeting Hamilton Morris, and tells us all about kratom: how to pronounce it; its legal history; its ties to opium overuse and why it’s still political; how people typically use it today vs. how it was consumed traditionally; why people use it; and the lessons we can learn from kratom’s path to legality. This episode was recorded as Hamilton Morris was sounding the alarm about the DEA attempting to schedule 4-HO-DiPT, 5-MeO-aMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, DOI, and DOC, and they have since backed down, proving that we should all be studying kratom’s path to legality and applying the lessons learned to future DEA battles.
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