In this episode of Vital Psychedelic Conversations, Kyle Buller interviews Michael Sapiro, PsyD: clinical psychologist, writer, meditation researcher, integrative coach, former Buddhist monk, Vital teacher, and now 3-time podcast guest. He discusses the idea of bringing psychedelics to prisons; his mental time travel work with The Institute for Love and Time (TILT); rebuilding trust in the medical community; and the difference between a diploma and real-world experience and proper training. And he talks about the complicated dynamics involved in what many see as a fantasy career; how he knows when to intervene; how he views “doing your own work”; whether or not the work can be gentle or joyous; the idea of joking during a session; his work with combat veterans and the intensity of 5-MeO-DMT; mainstreaming mysticism; and trusting that the universe has our backs.
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